March 23, 2003
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My Protest
The war is definitely on. We've lost troops to friendly fire. We've lost troops to accident. We've lost troops in combat. Worst of all. We've had soldiers captured and apparently some of these POW's were executed in a cold-blooded fashion. I support our troops. These men and women serve for very little pay under difficult conditions during peacetime. During a time of war, they put their lives on the line. They deserve our respect, our gratitude, and our support for their fidelity to duty.
Our President sent them into the field this time for confusing and uncertain reasons. In his State of the Union Address, President Bush talked about the dictator who had killed his own people, wiping out their villages. He said this is "evil" and is sufficient reason for us to launch a War against him. I question why, if we consider this to be an acceptable provocation to war, we didn't launch our offensive 20 years ago when Sadam began this practice of evil against his people.
In more recent weeks he has said that we must invade Iraq to enforce a U.N. resolution. Never mind that the U. N. Security Council never asked him to make such a move on it's behalf, he's such an enthusiastic supporter of the U.N. that he's willing to step up to the plate without putting them to that trouble. Which might be greater comfort to the member states of the United Nations if he hadn't also made such statements as "we don't need your permission" before he gave the order to drop the bombs.
The Constitutional scandal of the 20th century has been the disappearance of the Declaration of War provision. (Section 8) In the last 50 years we have been told that the rules of modern warfare do not make it practical or reasonable for a President to request a formal Declaration of War prior to acting. However, the build-up for the present Invasion of Iraq has been on-going since the weeks immediately following 9/11. The progress toward war has been deliberate, public, with less urgency and more leisure than any military action we have taken in the history of our nation. Yet, our President did not submit to the clear checks and balances of our Constitution, he condescended after the troops were dispatched to the field to accept a blank check resolution from legislators cowed by their unwillingness to be see as unspportive of the soldier.
The United States even prior to World War II has not only conformed to international constraints on the right of any nation to begin a war, but has been aggressive in it's application of the "Just War" doctrine which forms the basis of the Geneva Conventions. This President, with no apparent embarrassment, brushed aside a millennium of progress toward civilized and diplomatic adjudication of national disputes.
Sovreign nations have the right to defend themselves and President Bush has attempted to frame his argument as exactly that, self-defense. Waiting for an enemy to launch a first strike is tantamount to suicide. So what's wrong with Bush's policy and position?
First of all the right that Bush is asserting has no limits. The special conditions he is claiming apply in this case, aren't special. Striking first against an enemy amassing troops on your border is one thing. Striking against an enemy which may or may not have weapons, which may or may not be a threat to you, sometime out in the future is quite a different thing.
Putting all this together, Bush is asserting the right of the United States to attack any country that may be a threat to it in five years. And the right of the United States to evaluate that risk and respond in its sole discretion. And the right of the president to make that decision on behalf of the United States in his sole discretion. In short, the president can start a war against anyone at any time, and no one has the right to stop him. And presumably other nations and future presidents have that same right. All formal constraints on war-making are officially defunct.
Sometimes, when faced with a dangerous regime, it's naive and ultimately dangerous to deny that "might makes right." We must recognize that there are definite disconnects between people of varying worldviews which make it impossible for diplomatic channels to prevail, there will never be agreement. There are obviously times when it seems that might must be the most important tool in the chest. However, there are important and practical reasons why might and right together must defer to procedure, law, and the judgement of others. One of these reasons is uncertainty. If we knew which babies would grow to be evil dictators, we could confine them from their youth. If we knew which babies would be wise and judicious leaders we could crown them king. Another reason is mercy for civilians who cannot help becoming collateral damage. A third reason to hesitate marching down the path of "might makes right" is the precedent we set for the future.
At this time, no significant check exists to halt President Bush from any course he should choose to take. Let me be very clear. He is at this moment the closet thing to a world dictator that has existed since the days of the Roman Caesars. He has commited hundreds of thousands of troops and billions of dollars to a War that has not been Constitutionally declared. He has disrupted decades of diplomatic negotiation in the least stable region of the world. He has set the most dangerous precedent I can imagine for the future of the presidency. It makes me long for the days when the worst thing going on in the Oval office was a bit of hanky panky with a Cuban cigar.
Comments (30)
And I hope the Supremes are happy, since they selected him!
There is always more to a story than one wants to see or hear. Agree or not, I support those who are there and the families they left behind and I even support Bush in this difficult time. And I pray that he is guided to make the right choices.
Like Lyssa says, we don't always have all the information there is. It has never been the obligation of any of our leaders to disclose intelligence intentions to the public/press. I could study from now until forever and not have the knowledge or wisdom to set myself up in the shoes of Mr. Bush. I don't like a lot of the things that happen all over the world and tonight my heart breaks for that poor mom who saw her soldier son being interrogated. I don't like or advocate war, but peace does come with a price; and all authority is established by the sovereign Lord God. with all my reservations, I sing/say, 'This is my Father's world." "May Thy will be done!" Peace of Christ to you.
Congratulations for the courage to speaking carefully and logically in the face of significant contrary force!
This whole situation breaks my heart; despite what I also imagined as the longest and most public preparation for war in all history, I am still aghast that it is actually happening. I am deeply saddened for the hurt and dying on all sides, and deeply saddened in a different way for the damage brought on our body politic.

I agree with you....I think that he is one of the worst presidents we have had in a long time. I think he must really believe in what he is doing but Hell hath been unleashed and it is simply horrifying and heartbreaking....God bless those in the military right now...I do bless them...they did make a choice but when it turns into hell you certainly want to bless them...
At least President Kennedy had some diplomacy. I liked him as president..I was young in those days but I liked him and when he got assasinated it was awful...and things seemed to go downhill.
I am reading a book now called American Indian Prophecies by Kurt Kaltreider, PhD. I have always know in the back of my mind the genocide of the Native Americans but this is simply terrible...things that you may not read in your average history book.
When I was teaching home school to a group of young girls I read to them a book by Mary Crow Dog. I cannot think of the title right now. I think it was called Lakota Woman. I wanted the girls to think outside the box of the traditional American history....
Not to mention being able to relate....as a battered woman that lost custody of my children because of my religious preferences...and feeling like a fool before the court...I can indentify with the injustice.
it is always so enlightening to read you.
Unfortunately, "might makes right" is about the only thing Americans understand. It forms the backbone of our beliefs--from allowing bullying in schools, permitting harassment and discrimination in the workplace, and giving privilege to those whose finances already allow them plenty of privilege. As a people, we have always taken what we wanted--simply because we could. Most of us see no need to question something so seemingly beneficial to us, especially not after they've been pumped full of fear and half-truths about the current crisis.
Of course, this doesn't keep me from being perpetually disappointed and saddened when it happens, however unsurprising it is.
Agree with you 100%, Terri. We didn't know how good we had it during those 8 years under President Clinton.
I like the way you think things through before you speak, then speak without calling names. I don't say much about the war because there is so much "we" don't know. I am awake early in the a.m. and praying...simply acknowledging that the same God is over both US and Iraq soldiers and it is all out of my hands.
Wow! What an amazing ability you have to ignore the obvious while embracing the ridiculous! Did Iraq not sign a cease-fire agreement with us? Didn't that cease-fire require that Iraq agree to disarm and not become a threat to their neighbors? You are ignoring that that agreement ever existed. Well it does exist and we have a moral responsibility to see that its terms are upheld! If Iraq were to invade one of its neighbors or pass it's weapons to terrorists, it would be partially our responsibility because we failed to enforce an agreement we signed on to. You also ignore the fact that UN resolution 1441 was passed unanimously with the wording that "serious consequences" would follow if Iraq didn't immediately and fully comply. Those "serious consequences" were understood by every nation to mean war. Therefor your implication that we are acting out side UN sanction is complete fabrication.
Your argument that the president is creating a constitutional scandal by going to war without a declaration of war is hilarious considering it is coming form the left. The left is constantly arguing that the constitution is a "living" document whose interpretations can be changed to suit our times. I don't agree with this view on the constitution and would prefer to see it strictly followed; however, for the left to promote this argument is ludicrous. Your assertions that the President has pushed this war forward, unchecked, and against the will of Congress is completely wrong. Congress has stood by the president in this action and supported him at every step. All the checks and balanced of the constitution exist that have always existed. Congress could put a stop to this war because they control the funding for the military. The situation is unchanged form that of the Korea, Vietnam, Granada, and the first Gulf War. To say that no checks exist on the president is to ignore our constitution entirely.
Now to the last point. You make the claim that the President is "the closet thing to a world dictator that has existed since the days of the Roman Caesars." That statement is utterly ridiculous. Fist of all to classify the President of the United States as a "dictator" demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of both the term "dictator" and our system of government. Second, the President does not exercises control over the known world like the Roman Ceasars did, your own argument of how the President is opposing the UN demonstrates this. This is exactly what I meant when I said you have embraced the ridiculous.
911 is what has changed everything. There is a new doctrine now, and we in the US, and the world as well, need to pay heed. This is the way it is going to be:
"Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz has been at the center of Pentagon strategic planning.... Wolfowitz took the lead in drafting the 1992 Defense Planning Guidance on America's military posture toward the world. The draft said that containment was an old idea, a relic of the cold war. It advocated that America should maintain military strength beyond challenge and use it to preempt provocations from rogue states with weapons of mass destruction. And it stated that, if necessary, the U.S. should be prepared to act alone.... Ten years later, many analysts see a strong resemblance between President Bush's 2002 National Security Strategy and Wolfowitz's 1992 draft." From http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/iraq/themes/
I gave you zero eProps because you were dishonest in your characterization of the situation and you took cheap shots at the President. I don't generally agree with your point of view, although to this point I have always appreciated your honest appraisal of things as you see them. I am sorry to see that your have deviated from your usual course.
Way to stir the xanga community!
What an interesting piece! I have to admit that I enjoy when a work has no clear fact attached to it because it is a completely from the gut feeling realm of the psyche. I would like to read a factual piece quoting tort that has been violated by this Evil Dictator Bush, ‘checks’ that have been bypassed by he and his administration of cronies, and exactly how they have been bypassed. It is most difficult to know all the legislation that exists as well as the new legislation that has been passed but something tells me that you will find the deviated code! I would think sharp individuals such as yourself would research the laws that are in breach and then file suit against this Julius Caesar look-a-like.
I look forward to reading your endeavors in research, compilation and execution of your civil and criminal litigation. Please keep this community informed of your progress in executing your findings in court.
Another blogworthy subject may be how a person ‘supports’ a person but not their actions. Well shipmate, you sure have your work cut out for you now!
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Sail on… sail on!!!
I give you a slash because I always do baby! *MUAH*
Even tho i disagree with almost everything that you wrote.. especially your last comment that i found highly offensive... i respect your right to state your opinions, no matter how disrespectful they might be.
You may not agree with this war, You may not agree with our presidents stance, but it is very obvious that your opinions on the war stem from your distain for Bush... The comment about Pres. Bush being a dictator was not only a low blow, but very offensive. But it is okay, you have your right to freedom of speech.
I would love to see you back some of your comments up with facts and footnotes, but I am probably going to agree with those above who stated that it will be a long wait.
I have always enjoyed reading your blog, I have always found you to be a very level headed person...
this one was disapointing.
~H
BRAVO! WELL PUT! I"M WITH YOU ALL THE WAY!
What I find ludicrous is that anyone can be foolish enough to believe that waging war is any way to insure peace! This concept is nothing short of laughable to me. Anyone buying into this way of thinking needs to learn to think for themselves because they are either just parroting Bush's words or have not looked at this arguement rationally. War and peace are opposites, so a strong commitment to one cannot and will not result in the other. We... the people of the United States....will not know peace as a result of this war. Instead we will face the consequenses at the hands of all the countries who have withheld their support and voiced disagreement. How safe and peaceful will people feel about traveling outside our country, now that half the world hates us?
All people, with a healthy concept of Love, are having a big problem with the decisions our president is making. You are not alone in these feelings Terry. I hope you hold up well under the negative feedback you've recieved. I admire you for putting this out there. If those of us who feel this way don't start speaking up, nothing will ever change.
If you truly want Bush "out" there are petitions of impeachment circulating. There's a link on my March 18th blogg, if you want to add your signature to one.
agree or not this is a blog to get some people to think...
So, Angiem, what do you suggest we do. Since war has never resulted in peace, how do you propose we came about our freedom and the peace we have in our great country? What are your suggestions in Saddam situation? Send him letters, ask him to please stop making those big bad mean bombs? I am sorry that you find my opinion laughable, if you want to disagree with someones stance, and want them to listen to your POV, try being respectful. I do not parrot bush, nor do I agree with every stance he has on the issue, but I will stand by my feelings that, despite what you or I think about it, we are at war... and that war will liberate many people who know alot more about what dictorships are than we can ever imagine. I am sorry that you find that cause laughable, and I pray that you never find yourself in a situation where you need someone to watch your back... oh, wait, our troops do that for you on a daily basis... is the peace that they fight for laughable to you too?
~H
one more thing.. do you seriously think that signing a petition has anything to do with impeachment... and what exactly has bush done to result in his impeachment...
patiently awaitng your answers.
~H
I take strong objection to angiem who states that "All people, with a healthy concept of Love, are having a big problem with the decisions our president is making." Your implication is that because I support the president I do not have a healthy concept of love. What a preposterous statement to make!
Appeasing a dictator, allowing him to break every agreement he has made that would lead to peace will only embolden him and make him more of a despot! There will always be men out there who are willing to take away the liberties of people enslaving them for their own enrichment. These evil men will be stopped only by those of us who are committed to preserving liberties, by force if necessary when all other avenues have failed!
I think you are right on in that assesment!! I was looking thru my texts books to do a post on the Caesars and how Bush is parelling them.. excellently done! He crossed a fine line and now it's wide open to repeat. Some interesting comments sparked from this one... All I know, is that I don't support Bush - I will leave it at that, I do support our troops and I wish and pray that they could get the hell out of there - they are fighting a war that they shouldn't be. ok, Stepping off my box. ( NAS and I have fun talks on this one, luckily we agree on it all)

Thank you for making such an eloquent and well-reasoned statement on this issue. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
That "Steamengine" person has left an indelible mark on me with his words of wisdom. The first part of his comment, what was it?...oh yes...."What an amazing ability you have to ignore the obvious while embracing the ridiculous!" That's good stuff!
Then he goes on to say...."If Iraq were to invade one of its neighbors or pass it's weapons to terrorists, it would be partially our responsibility because we failed to enforce an agreement we signed on to."
I guess we Ignore the fact that Syria, Jordan and Turkey don't seem to be to concerned about the looming threat that is Iraq.....but hey! at least the governments of unbiased Iran and the other lap dog of the U.S. "Saudi Arabia" have not outright said "no" yet, but then again..who are these misinformed locals to tell US about the politics of their....I..I mean OUR region of the world! Still, I've yet to address the 2nd part of that eloquent statement.....passing weapons...We could speak of the billions of dollars worth of arms that the US sells to Israel to quash the Palestinians....but no...then we are anti-Semites...perhaps that fact the weapons everyone were looking for, were sold to Saddam by the U.S.....oh wait...we are neatly sweeping that little piece of info under the rug as we speak...then maybe the Iran-Contra scandal of the mid-80's...oops....I conveniently forgot about that already.
Then there is the issue of that whole "we signed an agreement" thing.....Having wasted much of my youth learning history and neglected my marksmanship at the shooting range, I am well versed in how honor bound America is when it comes to agreements (written of otherwise). From the treaties with those dirty Indians and the 1st treaty of Versailles all the way to the Kyoto Protocol...when I think of "my word is my bond" I think of the United States Government!!!!
I'll sum up his next paragraph in a single sentence:
"To say that no checks exist on the president is to ignore our constitution entirely. " I, being a "liberal commie", have only a shaky grasp on this pamphlet, printed by Gutenberg in the 1920's declaring our freedom from Burkina Faso, but still, I do seem to remember something written about "the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President" Amendment XII
Seeing as our most sacred document is already being shat upon and twisted to serve the interests of those in power, why quibble over such small details as: who needs what to go to war with who, right?
But I ramble.....best to rap this up with a little lesson in vocabulary for we ignorant masses.
Main Entry: dic·ta·tor
Pronunciation: <TT>'dik-"tA-t&r, dik-'
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from dictare
Date: 14th century
1 a : a person granted absolute emergency power.
Us Patriot Act
Model Emegency Health Powers Act
The Emergency Powers Act (this one's just down right scary!)
As we can see by these benvolent act of self-governace set forth by our Fuher....er....umm....leader, we know excatly how he fits into this definiton.
...."What an amazing ability to ignore the obvious while embracing the ridiculous!"
Oops....wrong link for the last one on there...should be THIS.
I'm embarrassed to have to weigh in on this "discussion". My3Es and SteamEngine have up on their sites the usual right wing agitprop, and yet they have the audacity to come on your blog and say they're offended by what you say without even addressing 90% of the facts behind it. This is typical Xanga, though -- so many people are "informed" only by the most emotional arguments, and rarely by the facts. Of course it's typical human behavior to only listen to those who agree with you. To "vindicate" your knee-jerk reactions. That's what gets politicians elected -- telling people what they want to hear.
Thankfully not everyone on Xanga thinks of world events as worth losing contradictory friends for, or as some kind of eprop popularity contest. Unfortunately, our leaders don't seem to care about the opinions of anyone other than the 22% of the voting public that elected them, and are content to simply project their power and keep their putative motives digestible for the 65% (or whatever the current number) who "agree" with their actions against foreign countries. The fact that these policies have strayed from constitutional grounds, from internationally supportable grounds, and into the morass of unilateral attack... Well, if there were a real "liberal media", you'd think there would be some tough questions about that!
The simple fact is that the written policy of this nation as to other nations is now one of aggression, instead of semi-benign neglect, and the Enrons of this world, the "Kenny Boy" types, are going to reap the profits, while we reap the whirlwind. Even my Republican, right-wing radio listening Dad understands that.
Xangans need a dose of reality, and I'm glad to see it coming from you!
I planned to weigh in on the war, executive power, world powers, nuclear power, and abuse of power but after reading all the comments I think I'd prefer to hide in a corner with a tub of Haagen Das.
Yeah, that should do it.
I'm not touching this with a 10 foot pole. But I will say, it's your protest and you can cry if you want to!
Uhh, peace American, use the whole definition of dictator:
1 a : a person granted absolute emergency power; especially : one appointed by the senate of ancient Rome b : one holding complete autocratic control c : one ruling absolutely and often oppressively
2 : one that dictates
Hiya
Just a question, really.
Was there actually any evidence that those Americans had died AS prisoners of war? I haven't seen evidence of this...at best even al jazeera shows the dead bodies and the captured troops as seperate entities...ie, yes, obviously they were executed...but I didn't see any indication that they were executed as POWs, rather, it appeared (or was inferred) that the two were seperate incidents.
I'd really like to try and figure out either way..
Ack..one more thing. I'll try and post a link...this is really addressing Morganna's post, inferring that Clinton did more, or better.
Clinton passed the buck, with regards to Iraq. Much as I can't stand Bush personally, he does have the unenviable task of dealing with a lot of Clinton's mess...and no, I'm not blaming Clinton for this, simply pointing out that it's not a black and white case of, "It's all Bush's fault!".
Here's a lil article I found informative (albeit hardly the most unbiased account).
Well this seems to be a dangerous page to comment on. I dissagree with most of what I have read here. That is ok because the world is made up of different people. I am a STRONG republican and I believe George is doing a awesome job. I was a little concerned about us going to battle until I heard a preacher Charles Stanley on how God commands us to go to war. I think our generation takes freedom from granted and if it wasn't for wars in the past we wouldn't have the freedom that we have right now to be expressing our comments if we like or dislike PRESIDENT BUSH!!! SO GEORGE BUSH HERE IS TO YOU!!!**** 4 STARS....
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