June 30, 2007

  • I've Got Friends in Low Places

    Dr Tiff asked how it's possible that there are costs associated with having no bank account when it seems that the reverse is the more likely situation for a working poor person.  Bounced checks, fees for low balances, etc. 

    The cost of having no bank account begins on payday when you try to cash your check.  For a basic "check cashing service" the average fee in this country is 5%.  Then when you go to pay bills, there's another charge per money order.  Some goods and services are simply not available (opportunity cost) to you if you don't have a "card" - visa/mastercard.  (Try renting a movie at Blockbuster with cash, much less rent a car or purchase a plane ticket.)  And the list goes on from there.

    For someone without a bank account there is a cost associated with having to physically go and pick up your check, take it to the check cashing place, then pay your bills.  Transportation, postage, and the time involved may seem minimal but they all add up quickly.

    It's also dangerous to carry cash.  The criminally minded don't have to think too hard to realize that if you are going to the check-cash/pawn shop/payday lender every other Friday, you're gonna be coming out the door with a big wad of cash. 

    The FDIC calculates that the low end direct cost of living without a bank account is about $800 a year.  Some subgroups of working poor have direct costs closer to $3000.  For example most recent immigrants routinely send money to support their family.  There is a cost associated with wiring that money.  A man I interviewed this week told me that he pays $49.95 to wire $250.00.  Then when the money arrives on the other end, there are additional fees charged by the bank to cash the wire.  And there is often a hidden "charge" because the bank there doesn't offer a clean exchange rate. 

    I know that having a bank account is not always a good thing.  There is a particular bank with branches in at least five states using a software program to "sort" items presented (checks).  This software is smart enough to identify patterns on accounts that maintain a very low balance and thus are most likely to be overdrawn.  With this software the bank "holds" checks and runs everything through about ten days after the person was paid in the order of largest check first.  That way, if there is an overdraft they will "maximize revenue" by assessing not one, but usually three or four overdraft fees. 

    This same institution places a three-to-four-business-days hold on ANY paper check deposited into the account on the often correct assumption that customers will be tempted to kite checks.  Very few poor people can wait another three or four days before they have to go to the grocery, gas station, etc and so they are most likely to write a check and hope that it won't clear before their money is credited to their account.  But federal clearinghouse processes are so streamlined with electronic data transfer that depending on where you wrote that check (Walmart for example) it has cleared your account before you get back home.

    Why you ask is it possible to clear your checks so quickly but not your deposits?  It is possible.  It's just not in the bank's best interest to do so. Oh, and the particular bank that I'm using in my example markets heavily to low income people with incentives to open accounts like iPods, and drawings for game systems. 

    How do I know they do this?  When I worked as a payday lender, I saw people all the time with bank statements showing that they owed hundreds of dollars to this bank due to these overdraft fees.  Anyone who understood what they were looking at and had a calculator could quickly figure out what happened.  In addition to the evidence of my own eyes, I'm now working with the CFO of a multi-billion dollar credit union. She came to me in shock last November after the vendor of this software approached her institution and demonstrated how a Credit Union's revenue could be increased using their product.  This vendor named the bank that I already knew was using it as their best customer and pointed to the bank's bottom line and growth as evidence of their product's value.

    I'm happy to report that M J, who is a wonderful character, threw this guy out of her office so fast that he is probably still bouncing in the gutter.

    The system we are looking at offers anyone who has their pay directly deposited to their debit card access to the services most needed by poor people either for free or for extremely low rates compared to what they are paying.  ($2.00 versus $49.95 for the wire transfer.)  Because it's not a bank account with paper checks, there is zero kiting capability.  It can't be overdrawn.  If a person tries to use the card to pay a transaction that exceeds the balance, the transaction is denied.  Potentially embarrassing, but saves the $35 overdraft fee.

    We make it extremely difficult in this country for a poor person to get out of poverty.  The average cost of goods and services purchased by a poor person is between double and triple the cost that a person with a bank account, access to money, and reliable transportation pays for those same goods and services.  For example, if I wake up at 3:00 in the morning and have a hankering for a banana, I could hop in my car, drive to Walmart and pay 49 cents a pound for my banana.  Someone without a car who lives in a poor neighborhood wakes up with the same hankering has the "convenience" of the 7-11 or the bodega where the same banana costs 85 cents per banana or approximately $1.60/pound.

    The banana is an example I happen to know because I just looked at a six different convenience stores within walking distance of poor neighborhoods in Colorado Springs and that's what they are charging this week.  But there are really good comprehensive studies comparing prices of a broad range of products (at least as broad as these convenience markets carry) and the banana is not an isolated example. 

    Even larger grocery stores located in poor neighborhoods inflate their prices.  Even the Walmarts that are located closer to poor neighborhoods charge more.  Don't believe me?  Take a drive around your town and compare the price of a tomato, a gallon of milk, toilet paper, and bologna at five different Walmarts.  I've given that challenge a dozen times over the past three to four months and I've never had anyone call me back and say, "You were wrong, they charged the exact same price for tomatoes at every Walmart in town."  It may sound like I'm picking on Walmart, I'm not.  I just know that there is more likely to be a number of Walmarts close by than any other large grocery chain because those tend to be regional. 

    In my work, I literally spend equal parts of my day with very poor people and with millionaires.  The poor people are buying the 85 cent bananas and the rich people are going to Sam's Club or Costco (or they send the help ...) and paying 29 cents a pound.  Because of the nature of my organization and their commitment to help, I don't hear the wealthy people I hang around with saying stupid things like "Well, if they would just try a little harder they could do so much better."  But I do hear that ALL the time from people who don't know what it's like. 

    Oh and the importance of that transportation?  The Ways to Work program has done studies of people without a car coming off public assistance.  When those people are able to get a car, fewer than 13% of them EVER go back for any kind of additional assistance.  There are additional comprehensive studies by the Brookings Institute and others that demonstrate the same statistics.  So we know that it is vital that poor people get access to cars.  But again, they have that barrier because they have poor or no credit and no chance of being approved for traditional financing.  Their options are usually limited to the "Buy here/Pay here" places who sell cars inflated to as much as 200% of their book value and charge 21% interest. 

    Our program, Ways to Work, BONNIE CLAC, and others around the country work with these people to help get them car loans at reasonable rates.  And that's another thing our system can be used for.  Once the person has established a track record using the electronic account for a period of time, that person is eligible to apply for a car loan with us that may be granted regardless of their credit score and can be used both to get them reliable transportation and improve that score so they can transition to conventional services.

    This is America where we believe in the myth that any person with a job can rise above poverty and have a "good" life.  But the myth simply isn't true anymore if it ever was.  There are millions of people in this country who are employed full time and don't make enough money to put themselves and their families above the poverty threshold.  The direct cost to you the taxpayer of those people being in poverty was $360,000,000,000 in direct public assistance last year.  That's over $4000 per taxpayer or $31,000 per poor person.  I'm not even going to ask if you're happy about paying that bill.

    There are some people who don't work, don't want to work, and will never make the choices necessary to try to do better.  We can't help them.  But the other 27,000,000 of them are a different story.  And maybe it starts with helping them get access to financial services and bananas for 49 cents a pound.

     

Comments (22)

  • Your postings have been eye-opening and very interesting.  Please keep it up.  Blessings

  • *standing ovation*

    It is things like this that should be voiced VERY LOUDLY!

    I applaud you for doing so in such a clear cut manner!

    These are the topics that should be hot button issues for the upcoming election!

  • Excellent post.

  • Someone should send this as a letter to the editor to every major newspaper and every mayor's office in the good old USA.

  • Booooya, booooya--good post. I am one of the poor (disability) that depends on her direct deposit into her debit card checking acoount. This was very informative. I came here by way of vexations. Have a great weekend!

  • Very interesting.  Providing access to education is key, too...although I know higher education is not for everyone. 

  • I realized all this a number of years ago. I had to struggle to get out of the status of being poor. Part of this too is the mind set it puts people in. Judi

  • I have been down there a few times in those low places. Back when I first got married, and more recently during the dotcom crash. I've experience this all first hand. You are so completely right.

  • You've reminded us that "life isn't fair."  I have worked for two major manufacturers and learned that the bigger companies get much better prices on equipment than the littler companies do--even when they are not buying in quantity.  I call it the Walmart-Phenomenon and it may kill the American economy.  Thank you for taking the time to spell out what you are seeing because we need to be reminded what obstacles other people are facing.  America is full of injustice and inequality, but most of us want to improve life for others as well as ourselves and I think that's what makes us special. I also found your post through Vexations.

  • EXCELLENT post!!! I can't tell how much this hits home with me. As a single mother of two teens, I consider myself at poverty level, even though I now live in a brand new house (renting) and am driving a 2006 car with very low milage... however, my salary is nowhere near what it should be for the type of work I do (this is my company's fault for not paying me what I should be getting paid for this area... but that's here nor there)...

    Part of my issue was the lack of enforcement from the child support system for over 4 years... thus allowing my ex husband to get grossly behind on his child support (and insurance) obligations to our daughters, but also because I was forced to take jobs that paid less simply because so many places still have that old fashioned thought that men need to make more because they are the 'breadwinners' of the family without taking into account there are millions of single parents out there like me attempting to make it on these minimally paying jobs while supporting children, daycare, and medical bills because we often didn't have insurance or couldn't afford it... which brings me to another point about my personal situation... due to the lack of #1) child support and #2) adequate medical/dental/eye insurance for my children, i was forced to file bankruptcy a couple years ago for nearly $110k in medical bills on one of my children... I was being garnished 50% of my wages which nearly put us on the streets...

    Add to all that frustration of not getting any support from my ex and the constant battle trying to get him to step up... having a car engine blow up on me (leaving me without a vehicle... see your post about cars...) I have had consistent struggles trying to live.

    After my bankruptcy, I started trying to rebuild credit. Understand I had no credit cards before the bankruptcy and still do not, however, all sources tell me I should get a credit card to help rebuild my credit. Not happening. Not only do I have an extremely bad credit score because of the bankruptcy, but every time I attempted to apply for a credit card, I got dinged again because the companies would check my credit in order to determine if I could get a card.

    I did purchase a 'new' car earliler this year but am paying that inflated 200% of its value... however, I HAD to purchase a new car because I have been relocated to Arizona and my 'old' car (although I owed nothing on it) had no AC. As you can imagine, living in the Phoenix, Arizona area, it's not a luxury to have AC, it's a necessity. So now I'm paying a greatly inflated payment for the car, living in a brand new house (I'm renting it... but...) my commute to work, one way, is 31 miles. Doesn't sound too bad probably, but Phoenix is the 4th biggest (and growing) city in the US from what I've been told.

    Does this post hit home with me? YES. In every way. I for one, have always strived to work and keep myself and my children off the welfare system because I believe so many people abuse the 'system.' This is one of those things I can go on and on about because I've lived it for years.

    Oh, and one more thing...

    I have a college education. Believe it or not. The value of a college education means little when you work in this world and are a woman. Yes, I know that sounds terrible, but it's the truth. Women are not compensated fairly. No matter what anyone says. I have lived it, attempted to get it, and am still knowing every day of my life. The way society is set up, this will always be the case.

    Unfortunately.

  • *earliler--- earlier!

  • thank you for shining a light on one of the many things wrong with our capitalist system gone amok. i commend you for the work you do!!

  • I am behind working too much. Did you move?

    Are you going to move? Judi

  • Very educational essay - and well written, as everything you write is. Our women's chorus sings a song called "Greed" by Bernice Johnson Reagon and it pretty well describes the motivation for society acting in such despicable ways. Best Wishes.

  • Thanks for responding! You have read _Nickel and Dimed_, right?? I'm finding it interesting that she did not talk about the financial industry as you do here, because that does seem to be a big area for abuse and inequality. I swtiched to a bank that does not allow overdrafts on the debit/credit card... I realized that was SUCH a scam with my previous bank - hold the deposit and then allow all of these debits that they then charge overdraft fees on. aargh.

  • I read your post to Yvonne today and she was surprisingly interested I think because she has a number of employees that she handles who care for her mother. At lunch today I shared about this with Daren's girlfriend who works for a credit union. According to her they do take on high risk accounts and she think that it would be wise for many in this bind to look into credit unions instead of banks. Credit unions are not as exclusive as they used to be.

  • I've lived in neighborhoods where the 'working poor' are. I've also had to learn many of these things the hard way...
    This is an excellent, excellent post.

  • I sure wish I could send this in to the Sun-Times. This is a very moving and educational passage you have here. And I never realized all of the trouble that a person without a bank account could go through; maybe because I have always had one, and have never had to deal with the drama.

    This is VERY good work. Excellent job.

    (p.s. I'm fifteen years old. )

  • Car = freedom in America. If we put a little more thought into how we build our communities, we wouldn't have to rely on cars so much.

    The bank account information in this post is really eye-opening. I use a credit union, but there are drawbacks there too - all sorts of surprise fees. This was a great post. Thanks.

  • As everyone else said....wonderful pile of information here! I was appalled by the revelations regarding the bank software. Benefiting from the downtrodden seems so intensely unethical, but as I've learned from your work this past year, it's also par for the course in some arenas.

    Thank you for an excellent educational essay

  • Very well written!  I hope your words educate those that will benefit from them.  I know some people that live in poverty and they are no better off than they were years ago.  They have a different mindset that keeps perpetuating. 

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