June 15, 2004
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Happy Xanga-Versary to me. (I almost forgot)

The Price is Right *
Well, in my car shopping, I have found one that I feel is a strong possibility, but my parents think is a bad decision. It's not ideal, very few of the choices I've ever made deal with ideal circumstances. I look around for the best information I can find and then I make the best decision I can based on that information. I'm working with constraints my parents aren't used to. Absolutely NO car payment can result from this transaction. I have a personal and moral conviction against debt that is getting deeper with each year that passes. (And especially as the past six months have ticked by.)
My financial situation isn't grim, but it is precarious. You may recall that along with the divorce proceedings, we filed bankruptcy. And at this time, I'm working a part time job that I have only been at for two weeks and I expect to leave in less than a month. So even if it weren't for my convictions about debt, I simply cannot have a carpayment. I have to pay cash.
The amount of cash I'm shopping with is what most people consider to be a reasonable downpayment on a car. (Of course, I think that spending what most people spend on a car would push me over the edge of insanity. I can't see pouring thousands into something that's going to be worth nothing in a matter of a few years. Maybe I just slept through that class in my financial management course, but all on my own analysis, I think it looks like a bad use of a very limited resource.)
Now, I don't have to find something today, but I do have a time limit. I'm leaving here on July 11. That's less than a month to get everything organized and get on the road, so I do feel a bit of pressure to find something quickly.
And it needs to be the most reliable vehicle I can get for the money I have to work with.
So far, looking at ads in the paper, visiting car lots, calling a friend of a friend - I keep getting "well, if you just had a couple thousand more dollars we could put you in a really decent little ..." I don't have a couple thousand more dollars. That's just a waste of my time to go there and it irritates me. I know I don't play the negotiation game right, because I don't want to wheel and deal and try to sucker the guy into lowering the price to below what the car is worth. I want to get a car.
Like I said, I found one yesterday, that I'm pretty comfortable with, but there are some serious drawbacks to it and my parents aren't completely out on a limb to express concerns. I found a man who buys cars like the Focus, that have been totaled in a collision and rebuilds them for sale. Stamping "Total" on the title of a vehicle reduces the value of that restored car to half it's blue book listing even if it is restored to pristine condition.
I'm not really worried about driving a car that has been repaired. We had an incident 3 1/2 years ago when Tim hit a deer. Our van should have been totaled in that accident. It was several years old, had 90,000 miles on it already and the repair cost over 14k. But the insurance company was in charge and they decided to fix it. Tim is still driving that van and it's in reasonable shape considering the additional 70k miles we've put on it since the accident. We've had no more or less than expected maintenance issues to deal with.
There are two different cars I looked at that are almost equally acceptable to me. One is a Chevy Cavalier, 2002 with 19,000 miles. It was in a front-end collision and the damage to it was the more extensive of the two. There are several places when I look around and under the hood that I can see welding. The most serious concern I have is that when the car was wrecked the radiator was burst and has had to be replaced, the battery exploded and sprayed acid across the engine, and I'm just not sure what additional engine damage may have been repaired or is still undetected.
The second car is the 2002 Pontiac version of the Cavalier. It has 27,000 miles on it. This wreck was more like what happened with the Focus. All the damage was to the body. It was a driver who lost control and spun around. Rear quarter panel and bumper etc had to be replaced along with the front bumper.
I didn't drive the Cavalier, I tested the Sunfire and it handled well. When I drove it on straight stretches, I took my hands off the wheel to see about the balance and it performed very well. With my hands loosely on the wheel, I braked from 70 mph to 0. It braked without pulling even slightly to either side and came to a smooth stop. The acceleration was good. I picked a fairly twisty highway outside Cabot and it hugged the curves nicely. It has new tires.
Like I said in the opening, the price is right. I could write a check for the car and cover the tags, title, and taxes from the insurance settlement (when it comes in - we've settled but I don't know exactly when I'll be getting the money.) I explained this to the man and he told me that he'll hold the car until Friday without a deposit, after that, I'd have to put something down to hold it until my money comes in.
Or I could keep looking. Have any of you had experience that would suggest that there are considerations I've overlooked?
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Comments (21)
I hear you about the prices for cars...I can't see paying what a small country would cost just to have wheels. LOL
I have a bit of experience...my mother has 'totaled but they fixed then instead' a total of 4 vehicles. She has had NO problem from any of them after they were fixed. I have also seen the news reports about why they are NOT good...and I DO think that there will be some weakness in the wrecked area...but I also think unless you rewreck it that same place or roll it, that it's not that huge a deal...if it is rebuilt well. You already know to look at the welds.
Be sure that frame is straight. Be sure that the basic workings all work. Check the tires, they can tell you a LOT about it...are they worn evenly? Are there marks around them in funny places? Does it make weird noises, at all? They won't get better...
Be sure that the paint is ON the car...(Ever seen a half peeled car?)
Ask lots of questions about how it was wrecked...and believe half the good parts and more than double the bad...and if it still looks like a deal, jump on it, because somebody else will.
Did I mention...make sure the frame's straight?
Buying any used car is a gamble...well, buying a new one is too, but if they break they are under warranty. Still, it sounds as if you're doing your homework. The Sunfire sounds like the better choice. Make sure to check it for fluid leaks. Make sure the headlights, turn signals and brake lights work too. And check to see if the heater and AC (if it has AC) work. Your best bet would be to take it to a mechanic and have it checked out, especially the transmission. Of course that could cost $100-300, which would be hard with your limited funds.
Just my two cents worth. I wish you luck.
Remanufactured cars are a great way to go for the price. They are difficult to sell for any value, and sometimes difficult to get loans for. Loans here are irrelevant so......
My main objection is that the equipment to remake these cars is designed for unibody construction. I just don't care for unibody cars. I'd rather have a truck. One thing to watch out for is whether or not the frame has been spliced. Not everyone can do a good splice, and they don't always last forever. If it's spliced, it should be seam welded and reinforced. NOT spot welded.
'bout the only other practical thing I'd mention is to consider rear wheel drive and not FWD. Front wheel drive is great in snow, but it wears out tires.
I have no problem with a fixed car that is totalled because I know how little it can take to total a car sometimes. Do you know a mechanic you can have test drive for you? That's always a test I have heard. The main issue is that the frame is not bent--then you can have trouble.
Isn't the whole insurance thing a scam? You just have to dance the dance (and I will shut up so as not to stir you up extra!) So where are you headed in less than a month? Did you say already and I missed it?
Does anyone have a suggestion on how to check if the frame is straight? All I knew to do was check and see if the doors and trunk open and close easily. And look at the "seams" to see if there are any gaps around the hood or trunk etc.
Well, the way that we discovered the frame had been bent on my mothers was the tires...they had wear that was not even, and strange...like one side had almost dragged looking wear on one edge....because it WAS dragging...it was not able to go straight and round. So I'd check the tires VERY closely.
Well, there's pros and cons to buying the rebuilt car. On the pro side, at least you know up front that it's rebuilt and was in an accident. You can likely get some kind of report (carfax mebbe?) and have in inspected to ensure airbags and everything are replaced and working. I think given the accidents, the Sunfire is the better choice, even though it has more miles.
On the side of buying a car elsewhere... a lot of used cars have been in accidents and no one tells potential buyers. At least this guy is completely up front with you.
Best of luck on that! Wish I could help.
You're getting some good advice here, Terri. I'm glad, because I'm more of the "it goes forward and backward" kind of gal!
You inspire me, each and every day.
Happy Xanga-Versary, Darlin'!
ask to take the car to a body shop and ask them. it may cost you a few bucks but....
sail on... sail on!!!
(thanks brat!)
Happy Xanga-Versary! I'm so glad you're a Xangan. I'll be doing what I can....praying that you and your new RELIABLE car find each other soon.
Good luck in the car shopping!
Oh and if you've got questions... I'll make up answers!
: )
I wish I knew more about car shopping that could help you. Glad you re-found me! Tag, you're it!
Happy Xangaversary!
Well, I figure, if the guy is being so up-front about what happened with the spurting battery acid, then he's probably a pretty honest guy. I'm just... really happy to see someone else who won't go into debt to have a 'great' car they can't actually afford.
This makes me afraid of what my future may hold...lol...I don't want to keep my mini van..but I don't want to have to go through what you're going through either....hmmmmm....
Good luck with it...( I don't play the car game well AT ALL).
xoxo...and thanks, again, for the great comment. You mean a lot to me...thanks.
Jen
I bought a 96 Suzuki Samurai in 1998 when my ex and I split up. I bought it cos it was the only car on the island with 4WD I could afford that week
I would say from my limited experience that it is worth paying a mechanic $50 to check the car over for you.
Is there a automotive repair and body shop that is a member of ASA in the area? If they are also a member of NACE (the international auto body repair association), it would be even better. They would be the best bet for checking the repair work done on the car for safety and possible troubles.
As the daughter of a retired auto repair shop owner, I would not feel safe recommending anything less than having it put up on the lift with a knowledgable professional assuring the safety of it.
Question: How much funds do you have to use?? I may have two great solutions... Remember I am the girl with the connection.. If you have $6000 you are in business... 2002 I beleive ford taurus.... Or the other option I am going soon to Mississippi...to Hattisburg.. My best friends Brother in law has a HUGE dealership there... We are going to the car auctions.. LIke you can get a 2003 van with low miles for around $11,000. He will give you a deal and just charge about $500 over what he paid... Just a thought....
happy anniversary. thank you for writing such quality blogs.
i tried to make myself a quiltnmomi but it is not quite as good as the real thing.
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