November 10, 2003
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So Do You Believe in God?
I cringe inside when I hear the question. There is no answer I can give that will correctly convey what I believe, and really most people don't want my answer anyway. They want to know whether or not I believe in the God they either believe in or reject. Often, I smile, say, "Yes" and let it go at that. I'm happy to talk about various aspects of belief or non-belief, and my spiritual practices. But more and more as I get older, I prefer not to talk about it unless I'm directly asked.
I've been asked.
You're not going to get a straight answer.
First, I'll tell you that I come from a fairly religious background. I grew up in a Southern Baptist family in a small, deeply religious community. That fundamental protestant outlook distrusts the theology of mainline churches, and even questions whether Catholics can be "saved". I didn't question what I was taught until I reached college.
I had a philosophy class with a professor who tried to demonstrate to us that Christianity was foolish, but he was so far away from my frame of reference with everything he said, that I could never connect with him enough for him to move me away from my beliefs. It was meeting people of other faiths and wisdom traditions who were happy, moral people with a deep spiritual life that caused me to start questioning.
I explored New Age thought, I visited with Buddhist friends, and I studied Judaism with some of kids from that background. I cut my ties with fundamentalist Christianity. For a long time, I was content to drift, reading, thinking, and talking about energy and light with various people I met from a variety of faith traditions. It's hard to say how I came back to God, and I'm not really sure I did. At least, I've never returned to God as I understood Him when I was growing up.
Richard Bach, Jonathon Livingston Seagull, Illusions etc, wrote that "The original sin is to limit the IS." I'll admit, I'm a lot more in sympathy with his definition than St. Augustine's idea that the original sin was sex. The theologian, Paul Tillich held that we should not say God exists, since this would be a limiting statement. To quote him directly, "The question of the existence of God can neither be asked nor answered. If asked, it is a question about that which by its very nature is above existence, and therefore the answer - whether negative or affirmative - implicitly denies the nature of God. It is as atheistic to affirm the existence of God as it is to deny it. God is being-itself, not a 'being'." Tillich isn't saying that the term "God" doesn't refer to any reality, but that the reality to which is refers is not merely one among others, not even the first or highest, but rather the very source and ground of all being. He was emphasizing that the creator and the created cannot be said to exist in precisely the same sense.
I didn't know about Tillich when I reached a similar conclusion. In all my searching, and let me be clear, I never stopped searching, the only thing that I came to be convinced of beyond any doubt is that I could never define God, never describe God adequately to someone else, never communicate even to myself most of the time what it was that God meant to me. I like the word "transcendence." But God as I have experienced God is not some vague "force" out there somewhere.
I'm getting a little ahead.
I've heard it said that "Man was created in the image of God and we've returned the favor." That was what I most struggled with. Letting go of every preconception of who God must be in order to be open to the God that IS. That's hard. A lot harder than it's going to sound to you from reading this blog, and many of you may question whether I've been successful. That's okay. I don't claim to be perfect in any aspect and I'm pretty sure I haven't perfectly succeeded in this endeavor.
My understanding of God begins with my ability to sense and to comprehend wonder. Power tempts me to exploit it for gain. Beauty I tend to take for granted. But when I encounter something beyond power, beyond beauty which inspires in my soul awe, reverence, and wonder ... I begin to open to God. God as I experience God terrifies me. There is no fuzzy warm sense that God is just an extension of the idea of Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. Nor is there the notion that God is some angry person waiting to smash me for my sin. God in my experience is so far beyond that the words don't apply. Another word comes to mind now, infinite. How do I explain that I have touched something infinite when every word at my disposal refers to something finite, contained, measurable, and understood? God is simply - unspeakable.
I have met God. I have met God in ways that don't make a bit of sense to me. I've met God in so many different ways that it's tempting to think that God just likes to mess with my head. Or that God is trying to make me laugh. Certainly, I laugh sometimes, sometimes I cry, sometimes I am brought to my knees or utterly flattened. How can I describe that so that you would not assume that I'm a mad person? Especially, how could I hope that you would credit me with sanity, when frequently I can't credit it to myself!
I'm not sure where to even start except to describe what the touch of God has done to me. It hasn't made me perfect, or religious, or especially enlightened. The touch of God makes me more aware of being my self and of the need for compassion, mercy, and grace. The touch of God doesn't make me feel evil or bring any particular awareness of what are no doubt a multitude of sins. You know, I've met a lot of people who seem gifted at finding sin in me and everyone else, but I've never had an encounter with God in which it didn't seem that all those things were burned to insignificant ash. The touch of God makes me alive.
In the end, the answer to the question is that I don't know whether I can honestly say I believe in God, because I don't know how to distill God into a yes or no propostion. All I can say, is that God believes in me.
Comments (21)
Tough one to comment on... but just had to tell ya I read and wished more people of faith were like you...
(can't wait to see what others say.)
Well, yes! The touch of God makes you alive! The touch of God is life changing, as one so touched becomes more loving, giving, compassionate, and forgiving. Life's not about what we have done, but what we have become!
Fun bloggie. You're always a joy to read. The only thing that could add to this blog would be a little Tucker tale! 
exactly - I mean - God is energy... how can we truly put a lock on an energetic force... who are we to paste attributes to its being... it simply IS.
When I read blogs like this, it make me want to take your word and use them as my own, they fit so well. Of course I won't, but I do find some serious comfort in blogs like this... a good kind of -Ahhh- sigh
whoa... that was very good.... sometimes hard to keep up (maybe that was just my small mind
), but it was good...
"God believes in me"
Reminds me of the line from "The Count Of Monte Cristo" Love that... no matter what God believe in me.
I'm always glad to read such well thought out opinions. As for me...no, not really. I've tried, I even converted to Catholicism years back, but deep in my heart I can't believe in an all knowing higher power and always felt silly trying to pray. Christians feel sorry for people like me and just assume that we haven't felt it "yet", and some of them try to help us, even against our will. Which really ticks me off. Still, I'm not ruling anything out, which I suppose makes me agnositic instead of athiest. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised to find that there may be something like an all inclusive energy system that we are all a part of, but I don't see it as being god-like in any way.
The entire last paragraph is a contradiction. Negation and void of what you said in the prior ones.
Read, God touches me --- but God does not exist.
Confused now...
Sail on... sail on!!!!
Oh boy! Thanks for the Tucker preview!
I suppose that Tucker tale is best saved for tomorrow, since it would have spoiled the mood of this blog. Your readers would be shaken from their deep Godly thoughts with a big belly laugh. 
I like that Richard Bach quotation, even though the Gods I believe in have their limits; I don't lose sight of the fact that the limits are artificial, imposed solely to give my finite human mind some kind of handle on the Infinite. There will always be more than I can understand.
whoah!
very deep and though provoking blog...too bad my simple mind cannot wrap around it...LOL
You know me.....too simple for my own good....but this was very well written!!!
:0) I hope you have a great day!
Tina
Beautifully put.
We are sisters of the spirit, T. And you put it so eloquently.
I feel odd commenting on this, for I know these are your beliefs that are still growing and changing, and you said yourself that they are hard to put into words. I just wanted you to know that your thoughts that you did put out there were quite extraordinary. Thank you for sharing.
I don't remember a time when I didn't believe in God. I relate to so much of what you say. "I have met God...." I got goosebumps when I read that paragraph. There's so much more that I could say, but, I'll just leave you with a big thank you for sharing this. How are you doing? I hope things are getting easier for you now.
A couple of points: if people can perceive sin in others, it is only because they exist within themselves - otherwise they would have no reference points to compare them to. (This is just subjective thinking though, as you know that I do not believe in the concept of sin to begin with - it is a purely Christian ethic.) The other point is, have you ever read Zechariah Sitchin? That does kind of tie-up the Bible theology very neatly. (If you haven't, I would suggest you read some of his work - as you have the kind of open mind that would benefit from his wide experience immensely.)
A good starting point:
http://www.sitchin.com/
Too bad I'm only limited to giving 2 eProps at a time, because I think this blog deserves at least 5 of them. One line above all else grabbed me: God created man in his own image and we've returned the favor. I think it's safe to say that we've all done this.
Reading your blog, I could only think to myself, "This person truly understands what faith is all about." I admire that. Keep on believing!
Fly with Christ,
-Jimmy C.
Terri, my son is a very mature 19 year old. He came over last night and as we've been doing quite a bit lately, we spoke of God and some scriptures in the bible. I hope you don't mind, I asked him to read this entry. He really liked the second to the last paragraph, even though he agreed with dreadpirate's comment.
just like to say that reading that was very cool. kick ass stuff.
I honestly think I would have answered the same way... that is a question I have given much thought to lately.. and have figured out many answers... different then I thought they would be too.
thanks for the compliment, i appreciate it. there's so little to that quatrain though it doesn't mean much lol
Well put.
Mike
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