February 21, 2003
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God Talk
Okay, here's my pet peeve. You want to know what makes me really feel disgusted? You want to know what completely turns me off? You want to know what makes me say, God, please don't ask me to be in the presence of this person because I don't know how I could be kind? God talk.
You know the kind of talk I mean. I'm not opposed to conversation about God, or even debate about God. I'm opposed to the kind of speech that says "I'm a good person because I talk about God so just ignore the way I'm acting, words count, actions don't." You know. God talk.
I'm hooked on Survivor. I didn't mean to get hooked on Survivor. In fact, I strenuously resisted watching it because it's unappealing to me to see people lie, scheme, betray, and manipulate for reward. I know it happens in real life, even in my life. But, I'm trying very hard to reduce the appearance of those elements in my world, I don't want them sneaking back in under the guise of entertainment. But, Survivor comes on just before CSI. So I was tuning in and catching the last cople minutes before my show came on. Then the next week I tuned in a little earlier, just to see the immunity challenge (no schemeing there, just good clean competition, right?) Then I was tuning in a little earlier to see ... you get the picture. Finally, there I was with my bowl of popcorn in hand and the remote securely hidden from any channel flipping fiends (the dog is horrible about that) for the 90 minute premier eposode of this latest Survivor incarnation - the Amazon Adventure.
I was more intrigued by this one than previous shows anyway because of the men vs. women setup. Now I'm disgusted. The women are behaving horribly. They have been together for six days, they have no plan, no purpose, no freaking relationships with each other. They seem to be harboring the secret desire to endure early part of the game with minimal effort biding their time until they can be combined with the men and taken care of. yes they won the first immunity and the first reward challenges, but they are a mess.
The worst part though is the excruciating behavior of the one religious person on the show. She annoys the others with her constant God talk. She sings while they are trying to fish. She preaches while they are trying to sleep. And at the first sign that someone is less than appreciative of her opinion, she flies off the handle like a two year old in bad need of a nap. May God deliver me from being the kind of person who uses God talk. It's the least attractive thing I've seen on the show yet. And I'm including the parts where they ate bugs and rats. Give me a good clean rat any day over the nastiness of rude, hypocritical, manipulative, and self-serving God talk.
Other people in previous episodes have been rude, hypocritical, manipulative etc and so forth. They didn't offend me, they stirred me to pity. Those sad and ultimately friendless people represented only themselves. The backstabbing used car dealer, the whining lazy restaraunt owner, the manipulative seductress - all these people looked bad. But, when it was over, their bad bahavior was understood in the context of the people as individuals. But, when a self-proclaimed religious person behaves badly, it doesn't just reveal poor character, it confirms the opinion that so many people carry about religious people in general.
Of course, it is a fallacy to judge entire belief systems by the behavior of someone who claims to adhere to those beliefs. Behavior, not verbal claims, reveal whether or not someone truly believes. But, in a world where it seems that fewer and fewer people have the tolerance to avoid overgeneralization in regard to religion. It seems to me that a person who desires to be a religious person must understand that it's far more important to act on it than to speak of it.
Comments (36)
This is the second Survivor blog I've seen today. Elfinmoon is also ranting about the lack of cohesion among the women, but for her the most appalling part is the way they're ostracizing the deaf woman.
Oh, girl, looks like you've found yourself some Samaritans to learn to love.
*Jumps up and down, clapping, whistling, cheering!!!*
Yes!!! Oh girl...you have hit MY pet peeve, and it isn't the TV show! I could not agree more with this! Unfortunately, those people are all over...and many see them, and their reaction is..."Save me FROM the Christians!"
They are very hard to love...even though we are supposed to.
oh good googly, now I have to watch CSI and Survivor? I think I am the only one in Atlanta who's never seen an episode of that show. Now I have to watch and feel repelled by wimin and their actions? What time is it on again? (weird flaw, being attracted to the repulsive, isn't it?)
Nothing I disagree with here!
"Give me a good clean rat any day..." Shall I tell my own little fuzzy darlings to be on the lookout for a mad, hungry, quilting mommy?
Of course, in order to secure obedience, I am always threatening to bake them in a pie. It doesn't seem to work, probably because I am petting them as I say it.
I absolutely agree with you. Christy even tried to apologize and Joanna wouldn't hear it. Joanna acts as if her opinion is the only important one and I feel that she wants to make sure that everyone will be under her thumb. As aggressive as she is, many of the women will be cowed and not stand up to her. Her religious talk is just that... talk. I don't think there is a loving, Christian bone in her body. She is one rude, hateful, hypocritical person that I hope gets voted off next!
Unfortunately, she WILL be seen as the "norm" of "bible thumpers" which is very, very sad.
I watched the first episode and honestly, it was enough to turn me off the show. I agree with you on this.
I totally agree with you.....all she could do was gripe about the Immunity "idol" that it was the reason they were getting rained on....well little missy! You knew going in that is what they used.....AND when she went off on the girl that is deaf......she is the reason that good christains get bad raps.....I have a temper and I am working on controlling mine....but she was way out of line....to be preaching about how to act and I have to agree about the fishing...you have to be quite and relaxed to fish...that is probably why the men are having better luck.....
Those women need to get their acts together or loose the game .......
I hope the deaf girl goes a long way!!!!
Tina
Some people hide in religion, because it gives them the false impression that they are good. I believe that even Christ made reference to the fact that you should not draw attention to yourself like that - it is an ego game. People should be judged by how they live - and that is the only criterion.
I don't watch reality shows - in fact, I don't watch too much tv at all...it is too full of propaganda these days, and I prefer to think for myself than to have my thinking done for me.
i know the type of talk you mean
i grew up around a whole lot of peole like that..they and the way they behaved was worse than anything i did..yet they hid behind god and their christianity with it all the time..the message was clear to me ...they could do as they pleased so long as they repented for it later..if they were catholics they went to church said their hail marys and were done with it..if they were christian it was that they would be forgiven so long as they repented...always made me steer far clear of religion as i knew maybe only one person i would say truely seemed to me to believe what they said..
good points you made here
Belinda
I don't watch any reality shows, but I identify with the God talk thing. Can we whack her with a Bible and shush her up?
Oh wait. I shouldn't have said that. *wink*
Ugh. I know what you mean. Totally.
Amen to that sister!!
~Maria
well said... I haven't watched Survivor since the first one so I have not seen what you are talking about... this type of behavior you describe is very frustrating...
I think "religious" describes the people of whom you speak. I agree that actions speak alot louder than words but then again it's always tough to live up to our billing as "Christians" and we can't always allow ourselves to judge others by their action unless we've been around them quite a bit and can determine just what is the fruit in their life. Interesting as usual. Have a great one!!
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God Bless - Dale
Ok - I have decided after reading the above comments that there is nothing of significance that I can possibly add so instead I am going to make psalmist's little man do excersizes .....
o/ /o o/ /o - these are jumping jacks
0_/ 0/ 0_/ 0/ -these are supposed to be sit ups!
A-MEN! Beautifully said, even though I don't watch Survivor!
I don't want to hear God talk - I want to see Him in action in your life. Then I'll ask you about it and you can share with me as much as you want.
You so rock, quiltnmomi.
Your little exercise man looks like he's about my speed. When I do sit ups my arms are the most active part.
Crunches are much more effective than situps - I wan't aware that anybody did situps anymore. (Situps are, basically, an arm and hip exercise - which is not very effective for abdominals.)
I think a lot of it stems from the "religion tells me everything about how to live my life" myth. Frankly, it only tells what the individual is willing to hear! We're human beings first, religious converts second. We're fallible, gullible, egomaniacal, overeager, selfish, self-justifying individuals, and religion just gives us another tool to express those qualities. For some, maybe transcend them at times, but only at times. The idea that religious people are generally "above" human behavior is patently laughable.
No one is, or can be, or should be.
Lord, deliver me from God talkers and Sunday Christians. Amen.
Me doing crunches .....
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Absolutely! You voiced my feelings on the subject...much better than I could.
i couldn't agree more.
nice site!
Amen sister!
can I get a witness... hallelujah for a christian's perspective on that "hide-all-my-faults-magic-cloke" God-talk. Now why can't more people see things as clearly? I so love ya for this, sistah!
Not currently watching Survivor, but will tune in just to see what you're talking about.
cloke-cloak, you knew what i meant, right?
I don't watch TV and I've never seen Survivor - any of them - but I've known "God-talkers". You know I agree with you.
{{{{{{hugs}}}}} Have a great weekend, Terri
I watch Wayy too much TV LOL... CSI is becoming my fave, both of them. I watch Survivor, and I too found Joanna a lil Abrasive. Will I stop watching... NO, I'll be glued there next week, right till the end.
I'm like the fish they will catch... HOOKED!!
It seems that the flaw of some is confusing righteous living with self-righteousness.
And that's yet another reason the only must sees on television for me are West Wing and Trading Spaces.
Agreed. One of my favorite *gasp* Bible verses is "Be doers of the word, not hearers only, deceiving yourselves" (James 1:22). Talk is cheap.
Two topics I try not to discuss are religion and politics, they cause more strife than any other subject. I just ignore everything anyone ever says about religion, except for Sebast in Penang he often says that God listens to everything he says, even to the point of altering the weather hor him. I have asked him why God has chosen to help him as opposed to the thousands dying, who say why me and get no answer, He is a sweet man and never takes offence, still visits from time to time. I cannot comment on Survivor I have never watched any of them Sorry I have't visited for a while Cheers Portia


Ahh Haaa!
I also am now a Survivor survivor and am ready for the next one! I missed last Thurday because of travel. She got a bit annoying, did she? I rather liked her singing on the fishing expedition. Too much of anything is annoying though. I got sick of all the recipes on the last survivor. Didn't you? PS I'm back.
Survivor is all right, but they just keep playing it out and playing it out...it gets old after a while. The new setup, with the girls against guys, will be pretty interesting to watch. I felt bad for the woman who was constantly sick, but her complaining got on my nerves!
...you seemed to have touched on many Xangadoo's pet peeve, I know you did mine. By whatever name they go, the righteous, the finger pointing and rudeness always remains the same. A reverse curve is their map, the more they talk about God, the less they evidence any social conscious. God talkers truely give meaning to "Do as I say, not as I do." Lord, please spare me the righteous.
MuSe
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