August 16, 2002
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How to Drive on Ice
When people learn that I homeschool my kids, they tend to have certain assumptions about what that means. They assume for instance that I'm a religious nut. They assume that my kids are socially warped. And they assume that instead of "real" biology, I teach my kids a radical brand of Young Earth Creationism that denies many of the scientific discoveries of the past 200 years. Most people are polite (it's safest to be polite around religious nuts, you never know WHAT they might do
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I probably am a nut (whether of the religious or some more exotic variety is still a matter of some consideration), and I'd be the last person to hold up my children as positive examples of social virtue. So I'll take the safer route and talk about some of what I hope to teach my children in regard to faith and science.
Sometime back I posted about the "problem of faith." I have no faith in faith itself. Without a proper object for your faith, far from exercising a virtue, you are engaged in a mind-destroying act. Regardless of how much faith you have that the frozen lake is safe to drive on, if the ice isn't thick enough, no amount of faith will support your truck.
This example is intuitive knowledge to most Americans. But not those from Minnesota. There's a very good reason that people from Minnesota don't get that simple concept. Most of the time, during certain months of the year, (August - June) the ice on any lake or pond will support the weight of a vehicle. Even after all the years I lived there, it still strikes me as odd and somehow eccentric that they must erect little traffic signs for those people who drive across the lake instead of around it. Even though they have good reason based on past experience to assume that the ice will support them, it's a fairly regular news item that so and so was lost when his truck fell through. Minnesotan's are so used to their notion of driving on ice, that they don't stop to question the object of their faith, the ice itself.
I find that most people have never looked beyond what they think they remember from their high school or undergraduate biology text. They feel greatly superior in intellect to those poor deluded fundamentalists who've closed their mind the great achievements of scientific understanding. They drive daily across that lake without ever stopping to test whether the theory in which they've placed their faith is indeed strong enough to support them.
Steven Weinberg, physicist, says of Intelligent Design that "everything I said would be refuted if a flaming sword were to strike me down at the podium." I wonder if Mr. Weinberg would recognize what a flaming sword looks like in the field of scientific inquiry. He made his remark before a sympathetic audience who were in laughing agreement with his assumption, only a miraculous act could bring the laws of science into question. Even then the laws are not in fact questioned, they are regarded as the unfortunate victims of a capricious deity.
Does it strike anyone else that this is a very odd position to be held in the same century in which Einstein overturned Newton, When the Wright brothers flew, and Neil Armstrong walked on the moon? Weinberg made his comments in contempt of the concept of Intelligent Design. In summary of Weinberg's scathing essay (published in two anthologies Best American Essay's 2000 and Best American Science Writing of 2000), he says that at issue is whether or not it is a matter of scientific study to link the design of the universe with a specific theology of monotheism and it's incumbent doctrines. This is known in logical circles as a "strawman." Instead of addressing the actual science of Intelligent Design, Weinberg caricatures this branch of study as fundamentally flawed. He demands that scientists involved in this field endeavor to prove all manner of abstract doctrines regarding God to be "scientifically" falsifiable. Well, to be crass, this would be no different that if I said to Mr. Wienberg (and by the way he is a brilliant man, half of the partnership that won the Nobel prize for Physics in 1979) that unless he were able to prove that physics could predict the place and time that a mountaingoat would next give birth to an all white kid, that his pursuit of the "Theory of Everything" is laughable.
The most interesting thing to me is not that Mr. Weinberg should hold such an illogical point of view, but that two different organizations should consider his essay to be among the best of that year. I'm certain that his essay wasn't chosen because his grammar and spelling were pristine or that it was submitted on the highest grade of archival quality linen paper. No, the publishers of these anthologies apparently think that Mr. Weinberg's view has merit.
The study of Intelligent Design has implications for many areas of technology. I'm excited about research into "artificial intelligence." I'm intrigued by the possibility that someday a truly "intelligent" machine could be designed and constructed in a laboratory. But, it seems unlikely to me that we could ever create an intelligent design if we don't know what an intelligent design would look like.
Would it seem reasonable to Mr Weinberg's supporters to insist that unless the "artificial intelligence" machine were able to suspend the laws of nature that it would have failed to meet the scope and specification of "intelligence." Maybe one day soon and intelligent design will think about Mr. Weinberg and chuckle to itself. It might sit down and write him a courteous letter. I wonder if Mr. Weinberg upon receipt of the epistle would recognize it as a flaming sword.
Comments (35)
Isn't she though
You're a very good writer, I'm jealous 
OK - now ..... when are you going to recap the "Big Bang" conversation we had yesterday?? You write much better than I do but I can still be involved in good discussions .... right??!!
You say: "if the ice isn't thick enough, no amount of faith will support your truck". Are there not miracles which are the result of precisely this?
I totally agree with SisterCTR
Silly dwaber!
The kind of faith that would sustain a truck on thin ice is not faith in the thin ice (something not true), but rather faith in a power higher than your own (something that is true) that could sustain a truck on thin ice. Faith precedes the miracle.
I'm so silly! So the phrasing implied (and missed by me) was: No amount of faith in the wrong thing will support your truck?
When you post these, I just beam. You and I would have a lot of fun talking together in real life, yanno that?
((You're gonna like tomorrow's post at my site - it's on Billy Graham as an authority on heaven & hell. It packs a similar punch to this.))
Kudos on the excellently penned blog. I'm keeping this one.
You go girl!
I have faith in God but I had the greatest difficuly to share it with my 6 children . I am sorry of this .
Don' t mix science and faith in God in elementary knowledges . When these last are high they join the faith in God .
AmitiƩ Michel
I'm so glad your scanner and camera conspired against you.
God Bless - Dale
An excellent brain and and excellent teacher I am sure
Dan - You put it so much better than I did! I love that - "no amount of faith in the wrong thing will support your truck". No fair reducing my brilliant essay to a single sentence that says it all.
Just making sure I understood the essence. Means you did a brilliant job of communicating, if I was able to understand sufficiently to distill without loss of meaning. Glad to have you back wrestling with your thoughts (cogito ergo sumo?).
Now you have me wanting to real the articles in order to have an intelligent, informed opinion on these theories.
You know, I wasn't really ready for summer to be over yet - but looks like school is in session. I've already had the "but you don't seem like a religious nut" reaction to homeschooling just one of my children, but no response to why not both of the smaller ones. It just seems odd.
Congratulations! You've made my Xanga Sites of the Day list! Have a great weekend!
Funny I always wanted one of those pile of pillows as a bed.
An excellant essay. Teach on!
Most people like Mr. Weinberg have invested so much time and effort into their theories that they have found arguments against any rebuttals...he needs a 'road to Damascus' experience to change his heart. Spot
GREAT BLOG! Love Dan's comment as well!

Well written essay and interesting discussion.
I'm...I'm...not comprehending this at all. Must be sleep deprivation. No amount of faith in the wrong thing will support a truck. ergh...it's not sinking in. The analogy is escaping me. Are you saying that science and religion don't mix? (I'm not trying to be a smartazz...honest...) I just don't want to say the wrong thing here and look like a doof. (okay wait, I'm going to look like a doof no matter what.)
I believe in God. I believe in science. I believe there's a balance there... And, I believe people who homeschool have the patience of saints. For whatever reason you chose to homeschool, it takes patience, intelligence, and stick-to-itiveness.
oh dangit...I forgot to tell you that your site is so pretty! It's refreshing!
Now that is good posting material.. see, wasn't so hard to fill that box!!! I love the flaming sword at the end there!! Good points

...didn't realize stigmatism of home schooling prior to your post. Certainly one can not argue the student/pupil ratio. Nor can one argue that in teaching a subject, one comes to a greater understanding.
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...however, I have missed the connections of home schooling, faith, science, intelligent design and Steven Weinburg in this opinion.
...not knowing the context of Steven Weinburg's opinion to/on intelligent design one could surmise that his comment eluded to the fact that science is in a continual flux, and as most physicists will agree there is a limit to science in answering the unknown, as in the colour spectrum of red.
the site is indeed very very lovely.
Hm. I don't exactly get the "faith in the wrong thing" part, because what is wrong and what is right, and as long as you have faith in something, then that is better than nothing. Remember in the novel A Farewell to Arms how Catherine said that she didn't have a religion? That Henry was her religion, so essentially love was her religion? Some would say that since Catherine was a realist, borderline pessimist, that faith was not something she had, but I'd have to disagree. She had faith in Henry's love, and for her that was enough. My problem has never been a question of what faith can or can't do, but rather a matter of where is it and how can I get some?
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What an intelligent blog! Tom
Well said. Excellent.
Hmmm... the ONLY question I have (and it's more of a stumbling block with me I guess, than anything else) is that (logically speaking, of course) if man is inherently an imperfect creature, then everything he creates is touched by his inherent imperfection. I am assuming, for the sake of argument, I suppose, that sentience is equatable with perfection. So how can MAN create a sentient (self-aware, at least) machine? Just something I have wondered at for quite some time now (Start Trek TNG, and other fictions - e.g., I, Robot - notwithstanding).
The larger question, of course, is how narrow-minded (perhaps downright RARE) REAL logical discourse has become. EVERYTHING can be studied and dissembled logically, but people in today's culture are too prone to label everything as something sinister and move on to the next 'inferior' thing.
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